================================================ The Official Usenet alt.tv.kids-in-hall FAQ List ================================================ Part 1: The Answers to Frequenty-Asked Questions ~~~~~~ about The Kids in the Hall Administrivia ------------- This FAQ would not be possible without the contributions of Kids in the Hall fans. Please see the complete list of contributors at the end of this FAQ. Thank you to all who contributed! (See "Who contributed to this FAQ?") This FAQ is maintained by Drew Davidson (davidson@mercury.interpath.net). Please see the submission guidelines below (1.32) if you have corrections or submissions (See "KITH FAQ Submission Guidelines"). Also, please (See "Copyright Information"). This FAQ is written in the WWW FAQ Format by fine@cis.ohio-state.edu (Thomas Fine). This format allows automatic conversion from text to WWW hypertext. (See "Is there a KITH WWW page or gopher server?") 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Summary of Changes in this FAQ ------------------------------ v1.7: Added some On the Subject of Me transcripts, various corrections in the sketch list (thanks to Tom Walsh!), updated some stuff in the future of KITH section, Added several new sketch transcripts: Dean and Lex and some Videos, Gavin at the Funeral, Buddy Seeks a New Lover, Daddy Drank, Gavin at the Butcher-shop, Mississippi Gary and Kathy Have it Out, McGillicutty and Greene. v1.6: Added various extra stuff throughout, added pointer to the FTP site with all the cool Bellini files, added some info on the KITH zine, added several new transcripts: Bruce: The Cause of Cancer; Christ Wasn't a Very Good Carpenter; Stop the World, We Broke up; Open Letter to the People Who Watched the Guy Steal His Bike Wheel; I'm a Bad Doctor; Communist Threat v1.5: Added "The Guy with a Good Attitude Towards Menstruation" transcript, added a bunch of 1994 show listings (finally), fixed up WWW FAQ Format compliance YET AGAIN (sheesh -- it probably still won't work!), turned Part 3 into Parts 3 and 4, added some more info on KITH movie, added "Buddy: Actor, Singer, Dancer and Model" transcript, added "Bikini Inspector" transcript, added "Mushroom Boy" transcript, added "I Did Not Find Love..." transcript, added "Celebrity Problems" transcript, added "Sandwich People" transcript, added more stuff about the future of KITH. v1.4: Fixed up WWW FAQ Format compliance, added info on KITH movie and various other future KITH projects, added transcript of "The Night Bruce Connected with his Dog", fixed various things, added more info on KITH merchandise, added "Letter to the Hospital" transcript, added "Ain't Gonna Spread for No Roses" lyrics, added "Bruce On How To Break Into Show Biz" transcript. v1.3: Added lyrics of "Running Faggot" song, several new magazine articles, some more bio info, Tucker as a recurring character, a few miscellaneous corrections, added "Terrier" song lyrics, changed name of Joe & Lilly to Sid & Sharisse (because apparently there is a current (1994) sketch (which I have not seen) that has their names explicit (Joe & Lilly were just guesses as to their names)), added partial lyrics to "These are the Daves I Know" song. [+] Indicates new or revised answers -- Contents ~~~~~~~~ Part 1 (this file) ====== 1.01) What is The Kids in the Hall? 1.02) Where can I find the KITH FAQ? How often is it posted? 1.03) Who are The Kids in the Hall? 1.04) Where can I watch KITH? What day/time/channel? 1.05) Is KITH censored? Where can I watch uncensored shows? 1.06) Is KITH closed-captioned? 1.07) Are spellings on the closed-captioning "official"? 1.08) Where can I get Comedy Central info/schedules? 1.09) What's with all the crossdressing? 1.10) Are any of the Kids gay? 1.11) How old are the Kids? What are the vital statistics of the Kids? 1.12) What are the origins of KITH? 1.13) What is the future of KITH? [+] 1.14) Is there a KITH movie? 1.15) Is there a KITH book? 1.16) Is there a KITH zine? 1.17) Is there a KITH videotape? 1.18) Have there been any KITH magazine articles? 1.19) Is there a Usenet newsgroup for discussing KITH? 1.20) Where can I find KITH stuff on the Internet? 1.21) Is there KITH info on other online services? 1.22) Are there "official" names for KITH sketches? 1.23) Who does the opening theme for KITH? Do they have a cassette/CD? Do they do the bumper music and other music in the show as well? 1.24) Is there a KITH fan club? Where can I write the Kids? 1.25) Is KITH merchandise available? 1.26) Where and when and how often is KITH taped? 1.27) Can I get tickets for a KITH taping? 1.28) Why will there be no more KITH shows? 1.29) Are there KITH concert tours? How can find out where/when? 1.30) What other movies/TV shows/plays have the Kids been in? 1.31) What are the credits for KITH? Who writes the sketches on KITH? 1.32) KITH FAQ Submission Guidelines 1.33) Who contributed to this FAQ? 1.34) Copyright Information Part 2 (posted separately) ====== What are the different KITH season opening sequences? Is there a list of KITH episodes and/or sketches? Part 3 (posted separately) ====== What are the recurring characters in KITH? What was the censored line in [sketch]? Is there a transcript of [sketch]? -- Frequenty Asked Questions ------------------------- 1.01) What is The Kids in the Hall? The Kids in the Hall (aka KITH, aka KitH) is a sketch comedy TV show. KITH is known for its off-beat irreverant comedy and hilariously accurate and subtle characterizations of both men *and* women (all of the Kids are male). If you have never seen KITH you are missing out! Check it out! 1.02) Where can I find the KITH FAQ? How often is it posted? The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) List for alt.tv.kids-in-hall (this file, Parts 1-4) is posted approximately once a month to the Usenet newsgroups alt.tv.kids-in-hall, alt.answers, and news.answers with an expiration date approximately one month from the date of posting. It is posted on or about the 4th of each month. If the FAQ is not available on alt.tv.kids-in-hall at your site, check alt.answers and news.answers. This FAQ is available for anonymous FTP from rtfm.mit.edu, in the directory /pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/kids-in-hall, files part1 - part4. (URL available below). If you do not have direct access by FTP, you can obtain a copy via email: send a message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the following lines in the body of the message: send usenet/news.answers/tv/kids-in-hall/part1 send usenet/news.answers/tv/kids-in-hall/part2 send usenet/news.answers/tv/kids-in-hall/part3 send usenet/news.answers/tv/kids-in-hall/part4 quit You can find the WWW (hypertext) version of this FAQ at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu:80/hypertext/faq/usenet/tv/kids-in-hall/top.html You can find the text version of this FAQ at: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/kids-in-hall/ You can find the UNIX Compressed (.Z) text version of this FAQ at: ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.answers/tv/kids-in-hall/ If you did not get this FAQ directly from one of the above sources, you may be reading an old version. See the above locations for the most recent version before sending corrections/submissions. 1.03) Who are The Kids in the Hall? The Kids in the Hall are Dave Foley, Bruce McCulloch, Kevin McDonald, Mark McKinney, and Scott Thompson. Also appearing occasionally are Paul Bellini, Brian Hartt, Norm Hiscock. 1.04) Where can I watch KITH? What day/time/channel? USA: In the USA, the easiest place to watch KITH is Comedy Central, a cable network. Comedy Central shows KITH reruns approximately daily at several different times, including (Eastern times) 1:30pm, 10:30pm, and often late at night or early in the morning. Comedy Central is not available in all areas; pester your local cable operator if you do not have it. Other cable systems make Comedy Central share one channel with another cable network, so you may have Comedy Central only during certain times of the day. If this is the case, you still may be able to catch KITH since it is shown so often. Comedy Central changes its schedule very often, so this information may no longer be accurate. Check your local listings. Every Father's Day, Comedy Central has a "Father's Day with the Kids" KITH marathon that lasts up to 12 hours! Other marathons on Comedy Central (for example, "Canada Day" (July 1) and "The Joy of Sketch") also feature KITH sketches, but generally not entire shows. There are occasionally other KITH-only marathons on CC, though, so keep an eye out. The broadcast network CBS shows KITH episodes late Fridays or Saturdays. CBS shows two episodes separated by a short sketch that explains that another show is coming up next. So CBS episodes are in fact an hour long. Note that it is up to each local CBS affiliate station to decide when to show KITH. Some show it very late at night and some don't show it at all. You may have two or more CBS affiliates in your area; if it is not on one, it might be on another. Check your local listings. The premium cable network HBO used to show premiere, uncensored KITH episodes, but KITH has now moved from HBO to CBS, so KITH can no longer be seen on HBO unfortunately. Canada: In Canada, KITH is on CBC Monday nights at 9:00pm. UK: In the UK, KITH is on Channel 4 (3????) Wednesday nights at 10:30pm. Satellite: ???? anyone have any info ???? Elsewhere: The Netherlands: channel Nederland 3, Tuesdays 8:00pm Greece: channel Seven-X, weekdays 8:00pm ???? anyone have any more info ???? 1.05) Is KITH censored? Where can I watch uncensored shows? The Kids in the Hall is censored on Comedy Central and CBS to remove adult language and (very) occasional nudity. (On CBS in the early days there was much less censorship than today for some reason.) There are also apparently some sketches that have never been aired by either Comedy Central or CBS because of language and/or content. HBO, CBC and UK shows are/were uncensored. However, some HBO sketches have not appeared on CBC or were changed. Currently in the USA there is no network to watch uncensored shows on. Keep in mind that the uncensored lines appear in the closed captioning, so if you have a CC decoder, and the sketch is closed-captioned, you can read the uncensored line if you can't figure it out from context. (See "Is KITH closed-captioned?") See the Censored Lines section in Part 3 of this FAQ for more informaton and a list of what was actually said in various sketches. (See "Censored Lines") Some sketches are censored by being re-shot. There is no way to tell if a sketch has been re-shot to remove adult language except by checking the Censored Lines section in Part 3 of this FAQ. 1.06) Is KITH closed-captioned? The Kids in the Hall is occasionally closed-captioned on Comedy Central. There is no definite pattern of which shows are closed-captioned. In fact, within one show some sketches may be closed-captioned while others are not. And the same show on Comedy Central may be closed captioned one time it is shown but uncaptioned the next time it is shown. KITH was much more regularly (perhaps always) closed captioned on HBO. From joec@hookup.net (Joe Clark): KITH is captioned in Canada by the inept, subliterate captioners at the National Captioning Center (early years of the show) or the even more appallingly inept and subliterate captioners at Premier Subtitling (recent years). On HBO the show was probably captioned by the OK captioners a the (U.S.) National Captioning Institute. Comedy Central may be running captioned dubs from either source, or uncaptioned dubs. In the former case, the captions are not likely to contain the same censoring as the audio; that's a sophisticated detail I expect Comedy Central doesn't want to spend the money on. In other words, when Scott Thompson says "blow job," a hearing viewer with captions on could read it without hearing it. 1.07) Are spellings on the closed-captioning "official"? Almost definitely not. This FAQ lists the closed-captioned spellings of character's names in the recurring characters list under "CC Name" as possible alternate spellings to consider, until "official" names are known. Information from various sources about official sketch names and spellings will be collated and compiled into the FAQ in future versions. In at least one HBO sketch the closed-captioning spelled Darryl "Doril"; it has also been spelled "Darryl". As an example of the fallibility of the closed captioning in general, in one head crusher (Mr. Tyzik) sketch, the closed captioning often used the word "curse"(!) instead of "crush". Then again, Darryl was spelled "Derell" by Comedy Central in some promos during their "Joy of Sketch" Weekend in 1993, so go figure. 1.08) Where can I get Comedy Central info/schedules? There used to be a free (snail) mailing list, but it has been cancelled. There is now a phone number that has some Comedy Central info, it is 212-767-8851. There is no specific KITH info there usually, but it apparently doesn't cost (except for the cost of the phone call). The number for Comedy Central itself is 212-767-8600. 1.09) What's with all the crossdressing? From mmr@u.washington.edu (Alexandria Kuvelinski): The Kids tried to have women in the troupe but the womens' careers took off too quickly and they would go solo. Feeling that they were missing out on the majority of comic premises (relationships, etc) they decided to play the womens' parts themselves. You will notice that some actresses do appear in more than one sketch when they are available. The cross-dressing is not for the comedic effect of men in drag. The Kids do their best to portray female characters with as much depth and character as any other role and try to put the focus on the characters and not the men in dresses. 1.10) Are any of the Kids gay? Does it really matter? But for the curious... In a January 94 _Village Voice_ article ("La Dulce Musto"), Micheal Musto writes: One is gay (Scott) One is bi One is curious One is a prick tease and One is married (Dave) [Note: actually both Dave and Kevin are now married.] 1.11) How old are the Kids? What are the vital statistics of the Kids? From suburton@u.washington.edu (M.S. Burton), and PBBP24A@prodigy.com (Ed Johnson-Ott) by way of HMPU35B@prodigy.com (Gordon Dymowski): Foley, Dave. b. Jan. 4, 1963? m. Tabatha (Dec. 31, 1991); 1 s. Ned (Dec. 25, 1992) Born in Toronto. Watched a lot of TV. Dropped out of a Toronto alternative high school and did stand-up. Met Kevin at an Improv class given by Second City. Worked with him as movie house ushers. At 22 was cast as the lead in "High Stakes" ("confusingly edited and crudely directed"--Toronto Globe and Mail) but did not become overnight success. Now poised to become an International Hearthrob due to his starring role as 'Chris' in "It's Pat". McCullough, Bruce. b. 1961? Born in Edmonton, raised in Calgary. ("I was a moody kid. Now I'm a moody adult") Split his time between playing bass guitar in bands and comedy. In '81 started going to TheatreSports improv, and met Mark. Still plays his guitar, and has directorial ambitions. McDonald, Kevin. b. May 16, 1962. m. Tiffany (1993) Born in Montreal (1 older sister) to Hamilton and Sheila. An asthmatic TV watching kid. Father a dental-equiptment salesman ("oh yeah, Daddy drank") who was transferred to Burbank for a year or so when Kevin was small. The family then moved back to Toronto. Kevin was a drama major at Humber College, but got kicked out because he was only good at the comedy. ("I always thought I'd be Montgomery Clift, which is weird, because I was 250 pounds") Enrolled in an improv class and met Dave. Plays guitar, writes songs and sings occasionaly with his wife. Hoping to cut a record soon. [Kevin's wife is in the sketch "Girlfriends Leave the Country", where Kevin and Dave party around the world. She plays Kevin's girlfriend.] McKinney, Mark. b. June 26 (or 16?), 1961(?) (or 1960?) Son of a Candian diplomat, born in Ottawa but spent his childhood in Trinidad with his brother (Nick, another comedian) and sister. He went to Paris at 10, then Washington D.C. at 13, where he was put in boarding school. Went to college, lasted two semesters before dropping out and in Calgary met Bruce while doing TheatreSports. It appears he is about to be sucked once again into the evil vortex called SNL. Thompson, Scott. b. June 12, 1959 Born in North Bay, raised in Brampton. Second oldest of four hockey-playing boys. At 19, he got into an educational program called Canada World Youth and got to spent some time in the Philipines. When he got back he enrolled in acting at York University, but was requested to leave in his third year for being disruptive. Had jobs as a security job (fired for being found asleep in the company president's office...naked) waiter (fired for being mouthy), bartender (mouthy). Tried improv and stand up, and realized that whatever he did, he would have to do it on his own terms, as a gay comedian. In '84 saw the KITH. He sings he dances he acts he does comedy -- who knows what could happen. Paul Bellini's B-day: Sep 12 ===== There seems to be a lot of family history explored in various Kids' sketches, and an almost-too-close-to-the-bone examination of their respective family dynamics can be found in the classic sketch "Didja ever beat up your dad?" 1.12) What are the origins of KITH? From suburton@u.washington.edu (M.S. Burton): The chronology goes like this: Bruce and Mark met doing TheatreSports in Calgary & started to write/work together. Dave and Kevin met at a Toronto Second City Improv class, and while working as Art House movie ushers started to write/work together. Both pairs attempted to make it on their own; Bruce and Mark as "The Audience", Dave & Kevin (and various other comedians) as "KITH". The two pairs meet in Toronto, and combine forces in 1984; they work at small clubs during the year as the KITH when Scott (who's been trying improv and stand up) approaches them. He does several guest spots, and officially joins in January of 1985. ("They sang me a little welcome song") About this time Pam Thomas, scouting for SNL, saw them and had them audition for Franken & Davis, and that was when Mark and Bruce got their stint as writers on the show. They worked SNL, Dave made his movie debut with "High stakes" and Scott and Kevin worked with the "Second City" touring group. They were re-united in '86 and started doing longer shows at clubs. "Lurching Seaward" with Sandra Shamus (later the star of her own show, "My boyfriend's back and there's gonna be laundry") had early versions of the analysis of comedy sketch, Clem @ the Barber Shop, Brad and Tiffany's (later Nina) date, and a long sketch/playlet about a bad comedian named Tramouth. "Grave Robbers from Hipsville" gave birth to the Dr. Seuss bible. It was in '86 that Lorne Michaels finally saw them work as a troupe, and started making plans for a TV show. In 1987 he sent them to NY to what was essentially Comedy Boot Camp (if you can make it there, etc., etc.) and in 1988 their HBO special/pilot aired. The series began in 1989. 1.13) What is the future of KITH? [+] The last KITH show ever was taped Wednesday, July 13, 1994. The last show was aired on Comedy Central on December 25, 1994. Mark and Bruce will be acting and/or writing for NBC's Saturday Night Live next season. Bruce has been making short films for SNL. Mark is now a regular cast member and appears in the opening credits. Dave starred in the "It's Pat" movie (based on the Saturday Night Live character) as Pat's lover Chris. Mark's younger brother Nick is on the sketch comedy show "The Vacant Lot", which can be seen on Comedy Central and CBC. Brian Hartt may be joining John Stewart's upcoming Paramount show as a writer. See also the next question about a KITH movie (Q1.14). (See "Is there a KITH movie?") From lisewinter@aol.com (LiseWinter): Bruce is doing an album for Atlantic Records, featuring his musical pieces (probably including "Daves", but the album will be mostly new stuff) and his monologues, which he's so good at; I think it'll be a super great album. He's working on it with Shadowy men and Bobby Wiseman (Canadian musician/ex-Blue Rodeo). I think it comes out late this year or early next year. Is everyone as excited about this as I am? Dave Foley may show up in a mid-season replacement sit com thius spring...apparently something w/Joe Flaherty. Don't know anything more about it. Kevin is in the next Nat'L Lampoon movie...don't know the name or the plot. Bruce begins his SNL films in January, and his album should be out February or March. Thought you'd be tickled by the following info: the forthcoming Bruce McCulloch album features a piece ABOUT Seattle...it's called "Vigil," and it's quite brilliant! Like most of the stuff on the McCulloch album, it's kind of a monologue, kind of a song...it was inspired by the Kids' visit to Seattle in April, when their show there (unfortunately) co-incided with the day of the Kurt Cobain vigil...all of the Kids (except for Bruce) attended that vigil, by the way...Mark McKinney said that the meaning/somberness of the event (the vigil, that is) was somewhat dissipated by kids coming up to him and going "I'm crushing your head!" From d. brykowski (c/o sportiga@uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)): [Bruce's album] is being recorded at the Gas Station in Toronto, produced by Bob Wiseman (ex-Blue Rodeo, producer of Edie Brickell, Andrew Cash, Bob Snider,...) apparently there are spoken bits, but it's predominantly musical, ala Corky & the Juice Pigs, BNL, Denis Leary. the tracks are pretty low-fi, so I don't know about a major label release. From pneumedia@aol.com (Pneumedia): Here's the latest stuff on the KIDS: They just wrapped up a first draft of a movie screenplay tentatively called "The Drug". Kevin McDonald is working on a new National Lampoon movie in Toronto. Dave Foley moved out to LA to pursue his movie career. Mark McKinney is living in New York and prepping for his first season on SNL. Bruce just finished the tracks for his album for Atlantic Records which should be out in January. Scott Thompson has lying low and is currently not working on anything in particular. Paul Bellini just finished the tracks for his album and is label shopping. From heffay@aol.com (HEFFAY): Norm Hiscock, former Head Writer of the Kids in the Hall, made his SNL debut in the Premiere episode of SNL's 20th Season. During the Lexus commercial spoof, the one called the "Enigma" or something, about two teams of engineers designing the same car with completely different goals in mind and creating a car that's "fast and slow" "small but big" "economical and gas guzzling" etc. Norm Hiscock appeared as one of the engineers. It wasn't a very funny bit and it went too long, but it made me jump up and down anyway because Norm got a fair amount of screen time. From barbcarr@delphi.com (Barbara A. Carr): Brian Hartt (one of the Daves that Bruce knows) seems to be a writer on the Jon Stewart Show. He's also appeared in a few sketches on the show. From PBBP24A@prodigy.com (Ed Johnson-Ott): Paul Bellini is leaving for Halifax today (Dec 4) for three months to begin his new job as a writer for a Canadian comedy program titled "This Hour Has 22 Minutes." From PBBP24A@prodigy.com (Ed Johnson-ott): Bruce's album, "Shame Based Man", is tentatively scheduled for release March 14 on Atlantic Records. It will include "Door's fan" from Today I had the treat of getting to hear Bruce McCulloch's upcoming album. Filled with mostly spoken word over music pieces (ala King Missile), Bruce does sing occassionally. The album, tentatively titled "Shame Based Man", is tentatively scheduled for release on March 14 on Atlantic. It's funny, odd and a must-have! Here's a track listing, with a few notes and the time for each piece. Track 1: Grade 8 (Bruce remembers the first time he dropped acid, track time 2:56), 2: Stalking (Stalker meets and chats with stalkee-yep, it's the piece from the Dec 17 SNL, time 2:10), 3: Al Miller (portrait of one of Bruce's pals, 2:27), 4: Heroin Pig Radio (first in a series of very short radio talk show call-in bits, :21), 5: Heroin Pig Rock (very short song, :17), 6: 40 Housewives (song, 2:37), 7: Doors (yes, a version of the KITH piece on The Doors, 3:40), 8: Radio Acid (call-in bit, 1:00), 9: Lift Me Up (relationship piece, 3:33), 10: Salt Lumbar Radio (call-in piece, :10), 11: Our Love (relationship piece, 2:18), 12: I'm Not Happy (song, 4:13), 13: Answering Machine (relections on the joys of answering machines, 3:07), 14: Daddy's Drunk (NOT the KITH piece, a very hard look at bad fathers, 3:08), 15: He Said, She Said (relationships, 1:25), 16: Daves I Know (Yes, the classic song from KITH, 1:57), 17: America (a look at the States, 2:33), 18: Jesus Radio (call-in bit, 1:00), 19: Eraser Head (Bruce looks at the joy of getting drunk and watching David Lynch's Eraserhead, 3:08), 20: Vigil (written while KITH was in Seattle during the Kurt Cobain vigil, 4:06), 21: When You're Fat (song, 2:14), 22: Lonely People (call-in bit, 1:10). That's it. I kept the notes vague because I don't want to spoil the fun for anybody. From barbcarr@delphi.com (Barbara A. Carr): Phil Hartman was on Letterman tonight [5 Jan 1995]. He said that he and Dave Foley taped a pilot for NBC last month tentatively titled News Radio. He also said that NBC has decided to pick it up (hopefully for the fall, but he didn't really specify. It could be a mid-season replacement thing). But we'll get to see I guess two Kids on a regular basis (with Mark on SNL), or is it two and a half (counting Bruce's short films?) 1.14) Is there a KITH movie? There may be a KITH movie by Summer 1995. Shortly after the last taping, the Kids went to a retreat in Huntsville, Ontario, Canada for two weeks to write the script and get drunk with teenagers. From lisewinter@aol.com (LiseWinter): The KITH movie is going to be called "The Drug," and its (basic) plot is going to revolve around Prozac. Seriously. It may feature familiar characters, but that won't be what the thing revolves around. It'll be a linear, narrative film with a plot and everything, not a collection of sketches or anything like that. From PBBP24A@prodigy.com (Ed Johnson-Ott): Here's a little teaser about the KITH movie. A source inside the troupe reports the film will be about the effects of a Prozac-like drug on a small town. The troupe at this point plans to use only news characters for the film. A rough draft exists, the script will be written this fall, and filming is scheduled for spring. 1.15) Is there a KITH book? There will be soon. The trade paperback will be titled "Memos From AT&Love: The Kids In The Hall Companion" by Ed Johnson-Ott with Barbara Carr and Jennifer Gardner. It will contain an episode guide with annotations from troupe members, a history of the troupe, individual profiles, sections on memorable recurring characters, transcripts of censored sketches, KITH on-line, trivia, etc. 1.16) Is there a KITH zine? Yes! From BARBCARR@delphi.com (Barbara Carr): MEMOS FROM A.T.&LOVE, is a Kids in the Hall fanzine that got started early this year [1994]. At present it only exists in paper form, but will be expanding to e-journal form (and possibly a page on the Web, but not for a while). At present, if you are interested in getting a copy of the zine, e-mail me at BARBCARR@DELPHI.COM with your snail mail address. I'll put you on the mailing list. The zine is free, but contributions are accepted. Your artistic, creative contributions are even more graciously accepted. --Barbara Carr, editor. 1.17) Is there a KITH videotape? Yes, there is a "The Best of The Kids in the Hall" two-hour videotape available for rental in some areas. This tape contains the original HBO pilot, which is rarely (if ever) broadcast! It also contains a first season episode and two episodes from season 3. Here are the episodes from the HBO pilot on the tape [from kurts@infinet.com (Kurt Schroeder)]: Millionaires in the garbage Guy who cries all the time Headcrusher: Construction workers and yuppies Cabbage Head: You gonna sleep with me or what? Rusty likes older women Headcrusher: Old lady from Rusty sketch Buddy talks about love at first sight To Reg Headcrusher sees Cabbage Head ... this is apparently not the complete HBO pilot however. The price has apparently been reduced on this tape from $59.95 to $19.95. It may or may not be available at the places below at the new price: It is available for purchase from Movies Unlimited at 800-523-0823. It may also available from The Video Catalog, at P. O. Box 64267, St. Paul, MN 55164-0267, or order at 800-733-2232. 1.18) Have there been any KITH magazine articles? Here are some: Village Voice; "La Dulce Musto"; M. Musto; Jan???, 1994; p.?? New York Times (late edition); "The real Not-Ready-For-Prime-Time-Players"; January 16, 1994; p.29 Maclean's; "Kids on the Ball"; J. Chidley; July 26, 1993; vol. 106, p.41; illus. Maclean's; July 5, 1993; Scott Thompson was included in an article on most influential Canadians Variety; June 1, 1992; p.28 Rolling Stone; December 10, 1992; p.30 TV Guide; September 12, 1992; p.91 Vanity Fair; April, 1992; p.147 Performing Arts and Entertainment Canada; Spring, 1992; p.39 (on Bruce McCulloch only) Vanity Fair; April, 1992; p.147 Interview; January, 1991; p.28 Gentlemen's Quarterly; "Kids who Kill"; J. Schneller; July, 1990; vol. 60, p. 126-31; illus. TV Guide; "Their First Gig? The Loose Moose Theater!"; H. M. Rosenthal; Nov 18-24, 1989; vol 37, p.23; illus. Newsweek; "Oh, Those Darn Kids"; B. Barol; Oct 2, 1989; vol. 114; p.67; illus. Rolling Stone; "Hot Comedy"; D. Handelman; May 19, 1989; p.112-14+; illus. Maclean's; "Laughing All the Way to the Big Time"; J. Bennett; May 9, 1988; vol. 101; p.60; illus. New York Times; [review of performance at Caroline's at the Seaport]; S. Holden; Dec 3, 1987; sect. C, p. 20, col. 3 [also some other unspecified NYT article] Some Canadian articles (may be hard to find in USA): The Alberta (Western) Report; July 4,1988; Vol.15: pp.44-45 Toronto Life; August 1991; Vol.25: pp.40-42 (supposedly an account by Mark chronicling his childhood) Chatelaine; November 1991; Vol.64: pp.119,121+ Globe and Mail; January 29,1993; p.C2 Vancouver Sun; February 1,1993; p.C1-2 Winnipeg Free Press; February 5,1993; p.D8 Montreal Gazette; February 7, 1993; p.F4 Vancouver Sun; May 10,1993; p.C1 Elle; September 1993; pp.90-91 1.19) Is there a Usenet newsgroup for discussing KITH? Yes. It's "alt.tv.kids-in-hall". (It's not alt.tv.kids-in-the-hall because of a 14-character limit in newsgroup hierarchy component names.) Not all sites carry alt.* groups. If you are missing alt.tv.kids-in-hall, contact your local news administrator. Thanks to bsc7@kanga.ins.cwru.edu (Brad Corsello) for originally proposing this newsgroup! 1.20) Where can I find KITH stuff on the Internet? There is a KITH WWW page by jmbell@use.usit.net (Jonathan Bell). Currently there is not much there, so if you have any cool KITH stuff (i.e. pictures, sound files, whatever) please submit them. The URL is: http://www.usit.net/public/jmbell/kith/kith.html Also, you can find some great interviews with Paul Bellini at: http://ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk/public/media/tv/collections/tardis/canadian/comedy/KidsInTheHall/Bellini/ and also at: ftp://cathouse.org/pub/cathouse/television/kids.in.the.hall/ This FAQ is written in the WWW FAQ Format by Thomas Fine. This format allows automatic conversion from text to WWW hypertext. This FAQ is aviailable in WWW hypertext form at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu:80/hypertext/faq/usenet/tv/kids-in-hall/top.html 1.21) Is there KITH info on other online services? Yes. Here is where it is: [Please correct this info if wrong and email me with new info] CompuServe: GO EDRIVE, Library 1 (Backlot/Programs), or use keywords KIDS and HALL America Online: ???? anyone know how ???? Delphi: no KITH forum; try GO ENTERTAINMENT, or access alt.tv.kids-in-hall Genie: ???? anyone know how ???? Prodigy: to "COMEDY BB" [the comedy bulletin boards] eWorld: ???? anyone know how ???? ???? others ???? anyone know ???? If you are not on CompuServe, you can still get (printed) copies of articles written by Sarah Chauncey (a 3 part article covering the history of KITH, bios of all performers and writers, birth of famous sketches, etc). Send a self-addressed stamped manila envelope to the following address: Sarah Chauncey, VH-1/MTV Networks, 1515 Broadway, New York, NY 10019. Include about $1.29 in postage. 1.22) Are there "official" names for KITH sketches? Official (canonical) sketch names can sometimes be found in the credits of the show when an alternate director credit is given. Also, some sketches have "offical" names that are given at the beginning of the sketch (for example, "Chalet 2000"). Official sketch names are listed in the sketch list in Part 2 of this FAQ followed by an asterisk "*". All other sketch names in this version of the FAQ are made up. However, information from various sources about official sketch names and spellings will be collated and compiled into future versions of this FAQ. 1.23) Who does the opening theme for KITH? Do they have a cassette/CD? Do they do the bumper music and other music in the show as well? The opening theme is by the group Shadowy Men on A Shadowy Planet. Shadowy Men on A Shadowy Planet are Brian Connelly (guitar, keyboards, backing vocals), Reid Diamond (bass, lead vocals), and Don Pyle (drums, backing vocals). Reid and Brian have known Bruce since high school; Reid even played in a band with Bruce at one point. Reid and Brian had a band in Calgary, it broke up, they came to Toronto and Reid joined a band (Crash Kills Five, 1 single, 1980) with Don Pyle. In 1984 the three coalesced into the Men. The theme is called "Having an Average Weekend" on the release "Savvy Show Stoppers" (Cargo Records, 1990). The version on "Savvy Show Stoppers" is NOT the exact same version as used on the show. The KITH theme on this release is not mixed as well as that heard on the show; the lead guitar riff tends to fade into the background. All but one of the tracks on this release are instrumentals similar to the KITH theme in style. From the liner notes: "This savory selection of socially irrelevant songs is a compilation of seven inch records released on our own Jetpac label in Canada." Brian does the artwork on the albums (and the "30 second story" puppets), and Don painted the Fine Ham on the cover of "Dim the lights..." According to Reid, the singer on "Bim Bam Baby" is "George from a comedy duo named Al + George". [From Matt_D._McMillan@tvo.org (Matt D. McMillan): "Al & George broke up and his full name is George Westerholm he's still doing music."] SMOASP also do the bumper music (the music played right before/after commercials) and some of the music used in the show itself. One can usually tell it's SMOASP because of their distinctive twangy guitar style. The band also has an alter-ego, the "Chateau Amen" -- a happening trio available for weddings, bar mitzvahs... 1992 EP Just married (Jet Pac) Some singles and several t-shirts available at shows; or at this address: 334 St. Johns Road Toronto Ont. M6S 2K4 Brief Discography: 1985 EP Love Without Words (Jet Pac) 1986 EP Wow, Flutter, Hiss (Jet Pac) 1987 EP Schlagers (Jet Pac) 1987 EP Live with extra bread and cheese (Jet Pac) 1988 EP Explosion of taste (Jet Pac) 1988 EP Reid Does Neil (Jet Pac) 1988 LP Savvy Show Stoppers (Glass, UK) 1990 LP Savvy Show Stoppers (Cargo) 1991 EP Music for Pets (K Records) 1991 EP Dog & squeegie (estrus records) 1992 LP Dim the lights, Chill the Ham (Cargo) 1992 EP Tired of waking up tired 1993 LP Sport Fishin' (Cargo) A more detailed discography of SMOASP by otg@csi.compuserve.com (Owen Gwilliam) is available at: ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/info/discography/2182 1.24) Is there a KITH fan club? Where can I write the Kids? ???? anyone know of how ???? 1.25) Is KITH merchandise available? From heffay@aol.com (Heffay): If you want the order form, write to: K.I.T.H. Merchandising P.O. Box 73, Station P Toronto, Ontario M5S 2S6 If you just wanna order without the form, maybe I can help. It looks like this. T-SHIRTS-- L or XL Kids in Dresses or Kids with Guns CAN$18.95, US$15.95 BASEBALL CAPS (very high quality, btw) Black or White CAN$ 15.95, US$12.95 Once you've got your sub-total, add shipping and handling Ontario Residents $3.00 Other Canada $4.00 USA $3.00 Then Ontario residents have to add 8% PST, Other Canadian residents add 7% GST, and no tax for USA residents. I hope that does it. Print that out and you can't go wrong. I have to say I'm very happy with the stuff they sent me. High quality shirts and hats, at a much better price than at the concerts. And there's nothing like having the supermarket checker look at your t-shirt and say, "What are the kids in the hall?" And you say, "A comedy troupe." And he says, "I've never heard of them. They must be really good." (true story) From schen@a1.mec.mass.edu (Sarah Chen): You can also call up (24 hrs. a day, 7 days a week) for a free catalog and order form from K.I.T.H. Merchandise. Their number is (416) 201-6464. They recently updated their catalog. So, in addition to the items that Heffay mentioned, they are selling: -"Logo splash" t-shirt (white shirt w/ a small KitH logo in red on the front, and a bigger logo with a royal blue splash in the background on the back) sizes L or XL $15.95 US, $18.95 Can -Embroidered t-shirts (black shirt w/ white logo, ash grey w/ black logo, purple w/ white logo, or navy w/ red logo) one size fits all (XL) $16.95 US, $19.95 Can From temptanya@aol.com (TempTanya): If you read your Rolling Stone magazine you will see an ad for kids T's and baseball caps in the classifieds. There are two T shirts at 15.95 each and caps at $12 plus $3 S&H. The address is PO box 73 Station 'P' Toronto M5S 2S6. I like the Kids in Dresses T shirt personaly. Good luck From schen@a1.mec.mass.edu (Sarah Chen): I wrote to the CBC Boutique requesting a list of KitH merchandise that is currently available for sale. They basically have the same items to sell as K.I.T.H. Merchandising: T-shirt with the Kids in dresses or the Kids with guns, plain t-shirts (in black or ash grey) with the "Kids in the Hall" logo embroidered (1"x3") on left of chest. All t-shirts come in sizes Large or X-Large. They cost $20 Can. or $16 U.S. each. Also, they sell baseball caps (with the logo) and each costs $16 Can. or $13 U.S. A tax of 7% GST (for Canadian residents) will be added to the order. A shipping and handling charge will be added as well. The CBC Boutique can be contacted at (416) 205-8997 bet. 10:00 am and 6:00 pm (Toronto time), Monday through Friday. Orders can be placed by using your Visa or Mastercard. If anyone wants to write to them by snail mail, their address is the following: CBC Boutique SRC Canadian Broadcasting Corp. 250 Front Street West Toronto, Ontario M5V 3G6 1.26) Where and when and how often is KITH taped? From kurts@infinet.com (Kurt Schroeder): KITH used to be taped once a month on Wednesday and Saturdays at CBC Studio 7 in Toronto. They did two shows each night. Since July 13, 1994, there have been no tapings. 1.27) Can I get tickets for a KITH taping? Not anymore. There will be no more tapings, unfortunately. But see: (See "Why will there be no more KITH shows?") (See "Are there KITH concert tours? How can find out where/when?") (See "Is there a KITH movie?") (See "What is the future of KITH?") 1.28) Why will there be no more KITH shows? From lisewinter@aol.com (LiseWinter): KITH was NOT, I repeat, NOT cancelled. The lads voluntarily chose to stop taping the show after five seasons to pursue other projects, some of which involve the group KITH, and some of which don't. As Scott Thompson said at the last taping -- when the show ended and they all come out to take a bow and thank the audience -- "We all thought this season was going to suck, but it turned out to be really good." 1.29) Are there KITH concert tours? How can find out where/when? KITH toured the east coast of North America in December 1994. From mmr@u.washington.edu (Alexandria Kuvelinski): YES! I saw them in Seattle and they were fantastic. Seeing them live with hundreds of other fans is an experience no one should miss. From trevor@london.myra.com (Trevor Murphy): KITH did a cross Canada tour in the late summer of 1993. I saw them here in Victoria, BC. 1.30) What other movies/TV shows/plays have the Kids been in? From jmbell@use.usit.net (Jonathan Bell): Someone was commenting that they thought Bruce was in one of the Trek movies. I saw The Wrath of Kahn a few days ago and noticed what appeared to be Bruce at the end saying, "Sir, the mains are back online." Neither he nor any of the other extras are credited. (Scotty's nephew is but that's because his role was butchered in editing.) Mostly from suburton@u.washington.edu (M.S. Burton): Dave: 1985 High stakes (a Canadian comedy/thriller) -- Dave is the star. really. 1987 Three men and a baby -- supermarket boxboy 1987 Echoes in the darkness (TV mini) -- high-schooler testifying in court 1988 Anne Of Green Gables : The Sequel (TV mini) -- waltzes with Anne at local dance 1990 Gemini Awards presenter 1992 Toonces TV special -- Abraham Lincoln 1993 "Odds" video 1994 It's Pat -- Chris Bruce: 1985 SNL short by Jonathan Demme "Just say no" -- high school guy 1988 Anne Of Green Gables : The Sequel (TV mini) -- Anne's best friend's fiance 1990 Cable Ace Awards, nominee: Actor in a comedy Kevin: 1990 Gemini Awards presenter 1990 An HBO New Year host (guest starring Dave, Scott & Tiggy the Dog) 1992 Toonces TV special -- Alien visitor 1993 Canadian comedy special starring Dan Redican (sp?) 1993 "Odds" video Mark: 1989 Cable Ace Awards, winner: Actor in a comedy 1990 Cable Ace Awards, nominee: Actor in a comedy 1993 "Odds" video Scott: 1989 Millenium -- Time gate keeper ("time quake coming") 1990 Cable Ace Awards, nominee: Actor in a comedy 1992 Gemini Awards presenter 1993??? 94??? Out: Stories of Lesbian and Gay Youth in Canada. ???? The Juliana Hatfield Three's video for "Spin the Bottle" 1994 September - Scott appeared with Terry David Mulligan (Much Music VJ) on the CMVA's (Canadian Music Video Awards) as a presenter. En masse they have been on Good Morning America, the Joan Rivers show, Comic Relief, MTV, won several Geminis and had two Cable Ace nominations for series writing ('89 & '90). Both Dave and Scott have shown up on Conan O'Brien's show, and Scott pops up occasionally on Canadian video shows. He also had a chance to flirt with Coach Don Cherry on Ralph Benmergui's show... From neoncap@netcom.com (Tyler K. Wong): just wanted to mention that a few of the kids showed up in an snl sketch during the randy quaid/a. michael hall season(s). There was that "you bet your finger" sketch, and a couple of the kids were shown as "past winners". unfor, i can't help with the exact kids used. From kino@shoreline.ca (kino): For fans of Buddy, there is an independent Canadian film doing the film festival circuit called "Super 8 1/2". It's directed by Bruce LaBruce and is basically about himself, a former porn star who's the subject of an "art film" documentary. "Buddy" appears in one segment, interviewed as someone who has worked with Bruce in the past. It's a hilarious bit. From davidson@mercury.interpath.net (Drew Davidson): Part of the "Odds" video video can be seen in the Beavis & Butthead episode "Naked Colony". When the Kids come on, Beavis and Butthead say: Butthead: These guys seem pretty cool. [referring to Mark and Kevin] Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Heh heh heh. If I was, like, old enough to drink, and I was in a bar and I saw these guys, I'd sit down next to 'em and say, "Hey how's it going man?" Heh heh. Butthead: Yeah. Huh huh huh. And then they'd kick your ass. Huh huh. 1.31) What are the credits for KITH? Who writes the sketches on KITH? [this section is not finished yet of course] Season 1 (1989) ~~~~~~~~ Written By: Dave Foley, Bruce McCulloch, Kevin McDonald, Mark McKinney, Scott Thompson -- What are the different KITH season opening sequences? Is there a list of KITH episodes and/or sketches? See Part 2 of this FAQ, posted separately. ------------------------------ What are the recurring characters in KITH? What was the censored line in [sketch]? Is there a transcript of [sketch]? See Part 3 of this FAQ, posted separately. ------------------------------ -- 1.32) KITH FAQ Submission Guidelines If you have any information, additions, corrections, comments, submissions, suggestions, requests, ideas, or complaints about this FAQ please send email to the FAQ maintainer davidson@mercury.interpath.net (Drew Davidson). To make life easier for the FAQ maintainer, please try to follow these simple guidelines when submitting new info. 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